There is a heptadic structure in the first seventeen verses of Matthew that could not have happened by random chance. It is obviously designed, but how easy would it be for the average person to have designed it, especially in the first century? How easy would it be for ChatGPT 4 to design it? I'll let you know that even ChatGPT considers it a nearly impossible task -- even for itself -- given the narrow parameters. Here is its conclusion: Given the constraints of using real genealogical data, the task becomes nearly impossible. The patterns you’ve described would not naturally emerge from such a fixed dataset. This significantly strengthens the argument for deliberate design if all the specified patterns are indeed present in a real genealogical text.
My question is if man could not do it, and even artificial intelligence
would be hard pressed to do it, how was it accomplished in the first
century? The Apostle Paul taught that all of scripture is "God Breathed." I think
the inspiration of the Holy Spirit is the best explanation for how the following was accomplished. I consider these patterns to be further evidence that we're dealing with a book of supernatural origin.
The late Chuck Missler talked about the heptadic structures in the Bible on several occasions. The number seven is obviously important in the Bible, and we find it from Genesis to Revelation. The number seven occurs more than 50 times in just the book of Revelation. It is normally understood to mean divine perfection or completeness. Because of my recent video series on Bible Codes in the Old Testament, I decided to ask ChatGPT 4 about the heptadic patterns Missler pointed out in the New Testament. Missler's well-known lecture is based on the work of Dr. Ivan Panin. Here is the question I posed to ChatGPT 4. As I've said, it is based on the seventeen opening verses of Matthew's gospel in the Holy Bible.
Me: I would like to know if these elements suggest deliberate design. If it looks like design, what are the odds, and can a p-value be determined for these things? We have a book that is composed of four short books, and the opening of the first book deals with the genealogy of its main character. It contains 72 Greek vocabulary words.
The number of words which are nouns is exactly 56, or 7 x 8. The Greek word “the” occurs most frequently in the passage: exactly 56 times, or 7 x 8. Also, the number of different forms in which the article “the” occurs is exactly 7. There are two main sections in the passage: In the first main section, the number of Greek vocabulary words used is 49, or 7 x 7. Of these 49 words, the number of those beginning with a vowel is 28, or 7 x 4. The number of words beginning with a consonant is 21, or 7 x 3. The total numbers of letters in these 49 words is 266, or 7 x 38. The number of vowels among these 266 letters is 140, or 7 x 20. The number of consonants is 126, or 7 x 18. Of the 49 words, the number of words which occur more than once is 35, or 7 x 5. The number of words occurring only once is 14, or 7 x 2. The number of words which occur in only one form is exactly 42, or 7 x 6. The number of words appearing in more than one form is also 7. The number of the 49 Greek vocabulary words which are nouns is 42, or 7 x 6. The number of words which are not nouns is 7. Of the nouns, 35 are proper names, or exactly 7 x 5. These 35 names are used 63 times, or 7 x 9. The number of male names is exactly 28, or 7 x 4. These male names occur 56 times or 7 x 8. The number which are not male names is 7. Three women are mentioned. The number of Greek letters in these three names is 14, 7 x 2. The number of compound nouns is 7. The number of Greek letters in these 7 nouns is 49, or 7 x 7. Only one city is named in this passage, which in Greek contains exactly 7 letters.
Is there any evidence of deliberate design in this pattern of 7?
(As I said, this is obviously a deliberate design. The real question is did Matthew design it? I was skeptical of this being something supernatural, and I thought perhaps it was remotely possible that Matthew had arranged his genealogy deliberately, though I acknowledge it would have been extremely difficult, and I'm not sure why he would do it, but I thought it was still a possibility. By the end of this conversation, I no longer felt that way.)
If you want to follow along, the full conversation can be viewed at this link:
https://chatgpt.com/share/99f4c83a-5f3b-4cec-ac0a-c1bef405e08b
ChatGPT 4:
To determine if these patterns suggest deliberate design, we need to calculate the likelihood of such patterns occurring by chance. Here's a step-by-step approach to understanding and calculating the odds and the p-value for these patterns:
Understanding the Elements:
- The passage contains various patterns, particularly multiples of 7.
- Examples include counts of nouns, forms of words, total letters, and occurrences of specific words.
Calculating Expected Frequencies:
- First, we need to understand the expected frequencies of these patterns in a random text. This involves knowing the general distribution of word types, letters, and word forms in Greek.
Hypothesis Testing:
- Null Hypothesis (): The observed patterns occur due to random chance.
- Alternative Hypothesis (): The observed patterns are the result of deliberate design.
Test Statistics:
- For each observed pattern, we calculate the probability of it occurring by chance.
- We can use combinatorial methods to determine the number of ways these patterns can occur.
Calculating the Odds:
- For each pattern, we calculate the probability of the pattern occurring randomly.
- Multiply these probabilities to get the overall probability of all patterns occurring by chance (assuming they are independent, which is a simplification but useful for this initial analysis).
P-Value Calculation:
- The p-value is the probability of obtaining results at least as extreme as the observed results, given that the null hypothesis is true.
- In this context, we calculate the p-value by considering the product of the probabilities of individual patterns.
Example Calculations
Let's consider a few patterns to illustrate:
Nouns = 56 (7 x 8):
- If the total number of words is 72, and we assume a typical distribution of nouns in Greek, we can calculate the probability of exactly 56 nouns.
The Greek word “the” occurs 56 times (7 x 8):
- We need the probability of "the" occurring 56 times in 72 words.
Number of different forms of “the” is 7:
- We calculate the probability of having exactly 7 different forms of "the".
We use combinatorial formulas and probabilities for these calculations. Here are some hypothetical calculations for simplicity:
- Probability of 56 nouns out of 72 words:
- Probability of "the" occurring 56 times:
- Probability of 7 different forms of "the":
Assuming these probabilities are independent:
Simplified Example Calculation
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Overall probability of all patterns:
This simplified example suggests a very low probability of the patterns occurring by chance, indicating potential deliberate design.
Detailed Statistical Analysis
To provide a precise answer, we'd conduct a detailed statistical analysis considering the actual distributions and frequencies of Greek words and letters. This would involve:
- Collecting data on the frequencies of nouns, articles, and other elements in Greek.
- Using statistical software to calculate exact probabilities.
- Aggregating these probabilities to determine the overall likelihood of the observed patterns.
Conclusion: The simplified analysis suggests that the patterns have a low probability of occurring by chance, which might indicate deliberate design. A more detailed statistical analysis would provide a precise p-value, strengthening the conclusion.
If you would like, I can perform more detailed calculations for specific patterns.
Me: The pattern continues, but it may not be enough to aid in determining a p-value. As you know, Greek uses the letters of the alphabet for numerical values. Any specific word has a numerical value of its own by adding up the values of the letters in that particular word. The 72 vocabulary words add up to a gematrical value of 42,364, or 7 x 6,052. Exactly. If one Greek letter was changed, this would not happen. The 72 words appear in 90 forms — some appear in more than one form. The numeric value of the 90 forms is 54,075, or 7 x 7,725. There are words in the passage that do not occur in any of the other books. They occur 42 times (7 x 6) and have 126 letters (7 x 18).
ChatGPT 4:
To determine whether these patterns suggest deliberate design and to calculate the p-value, we need to approach the problem systematically. Here’s a structured way to assess the evidence and calculate the probabilities:
1. Understanding Gematria Patterns
- 72 vocabulary words with a gematrical value of 42,364 (7 x 6,052).
- 90 forms with a gematrical value of 54,075 (7 x 7,725).
- Unique words occur 42 times (7 x 6) and have 126 letters (7 x 18).
2. Null Hypothesis and Alternative Hypothesis
- Null Hypothesis (H0): The observed patterns occur due to random chance.
- Alternative Hypothesis (H1): The observed patterns result from deliberate design.
3. Calculating Expected Frequencies and Probabilities
- Gematrical Values: Calculating the probability that the sum of the numerical values of the words is divisible by 7. This involves understanding the distribution of Greek letter values and word lengths.
- Word Occurrences and Forms: Determining the likelihood that the counts of words and their forms are divisible by 7.
4. Probability Calculations
Gematrical Values
- Gematrical Value of 72 Words: The sum of values being exactly divisible by 7.
- Gematrical Value of 90 Forms: Similarly, the sum of values being exactly divisible by 7.
To calculate these probabilities, we need to know the distributions of word lengths and the numerical values of Greek letters. Let’s assume the following:
- Distribution of Word Lengths and Values: Uniform distribution (for simplicity).
Let’s perform the calculations for the observed patterns:
Probability of Gematrical Value Being Divisible by 7
For 72 Words:
- Assuming a uniform distribution, the probability of any sum being divisible by 7 is .
- Therefore, .
For 90 Forms:
- Similarly, .
Probability of Word Occurrences and Letters
Unique Words Occurring 42 Times:
- Probability of occurrence count being divisible by 7: .
126 Letters:
- Probability of the sum of letters being divisible by 7: .
5. Combined Probability
Assuming independence of events:
6. Calculating the p-value
The combined probability of represents the likelihood of these patterns occurring by random chance.
Conclusion
The low probability () suggests that these patterns are highly unlikely to occur by chance, providing strong evidence of deliberate design. However, it's important to consider the assumptions made, especially the independence of events and the uniform distribution of word values and lengths.
For a more rigorous analysis, we would need detailed data on the distribution of Greek letter values and word lengths, and potentially more sophisticated statistical techniques to account for dependencies between the patterns.
Would you like to delve deeper into any specific pattern or calculation?
Me: If an average person were to sit down and attempt to construct a text that meets everything I've discussed throughout this thread, how likely would it be that they could do it, or is it nearly an impossible task? Would it be easy for you to do?
ChatGPT 4:
Constructing a text that meets all the specific criteria you've outlined would be an extremely challenging task for several reasons:
Complexity and Specificity:
- The patterns are highly specific and numerous, involving exact counts and multiples of 7 for various types of words, forms, and gematrical values.
- Ensuring these patterns align correctly across different categories (words, letters, occurrences, etc.) adds to the complexity.
Probability of Random Success:
- The probability calculations we discussed show extremely low chances of these patterns occurring by random chance.
- For example, achieving a pattern with a combined probability of is exceedingly unlikely.
Cognitive and Technical Challenges:
- An average person would need a deep understanding of Greek language, including vocabulary, grammar, and gematria (numerical values of letters).
- They would also need to meticulously plan and cross-check their work to ensure all conditions are met simultaneously.
Trial and Error:
- Constructing such a text would likely involve extensive trial and error, making it a time-consuming process.
- Each attempt would require validation against all the criteria, and even a small deviation would require significant revisions.
Constructing the Text: A Hypothetical Approach
For a practical perspective, let’s consider how one might attempt to construct such a text:
Plan and Draft:
- Outline the structure and content of the text.
- Draft initial sentences and paragraphs, ensuring each component (words, letters) is tracked for its contribution to the overall patterns.
Verification and Adjustment:
- Continuously verify counts of words, letters, and gematrical values.
- Adjust the text iteratively to align with the required multiples of 7.
Tools and Assistance:
- Utilize tools (spreadsheets, scripts) to automate some of the counting and verification processes. (I'll just add those things weren't available to Matthew.)
- Despite this, manual adjustments would still be necessary to ensure coherence and flow of the text.
- Utilize tools (spreadsheets, scripts) to automate some of the counting and verification processes. (I'll just add those things weren't available to Matthew.)
My Capability
As an AI, I could assist in constructing such a text by:
Automating Calculations:
- Writing scripts to calculate word counts, letter frequencies, and gematrical values in real-time.
- Ensuring each iteration of the text is checked against the specified criteria.
Iterative Refinement:
- Iteratively refining the text to meet all conditions.
- This would involve a combination of automated checks and manual adjustments to maintain readability and coherence.
Simulated Construction:
- Here’s a simplified approach:
- Start with a pool of Greek words and phrases.
- Construct sentences, continually checking the cumulative counts and values.
- Adjust as necessary to ensure the final text meets all criteria.
- Here’s a simplified approach:
Conclusion
For an average person, constructing such a text would be nearly impossible without substantial linguistic and mathematical skills, and it would require significant time and effort. While I can facilitate and automate parts of the process, achieving perfect alignment with all specified patterns would still be a complex and iterative task. (And of course those things were not available to Matthew.)
Would you like to see a demonstration or further explanation of how this might be done?
Me: But it's a genealogy of real people, not something we can play with, does that make it harder?
ChatGPT 4:
Yes, the fact that the text is a genealogy of real people significantly increases the difficulty of constructing such a text to meet all the specified criteria. Here are some reasons why this adds complexity:
Constraints of Real Data
Fixed Names and Information:
- Genealogical records contain fixed names and relationships that cannot be altered or substituted to fit the desired patterns.
- This limits the flexibility needed to adjust word counts, letter frequencies, and gematrical values.
Authenticity:
- The text must remain true to historical and genealogical accuracy, meaning no creative liberties can be taken to artificially meet the patterns.
Additional Complexity
Non-Adjustable Content:
- With fictional or flexible content, one can adjust words and structures to meet numerical patterns. In a genealogy, this is not possible.
- The names, their occurrences, and relationships are fixed, and the patterns must emerge naturally from this data.
Higher Probability of Deviations:
- Real genealogies will not naturally align with such precise numerical patterns, making it even more improbable for all criteria to be met by chance.
Practical Implications
Statistical Improbability:
- The statistical likelihood of all specified patterns (multiples of 7 across various counts and values) occurring naturally in a real genealogical text is exceedingly low.
- Each additional fixed element (name, relationship) decreases the flexibility and increases the improbability of the patterns occurring by chance.
Verification Difficulty:
- Verifying that a real genealogical text meets all the specified criteria without any adjustments is complex and requires meticulous examination of each element against the patterns.
Conclusion
Given the constraints of using real genealogical data, the task becomes nearly impossible. The patterns you’ve described would not naturally emerge from such a fixed dataset. This significantly strengthens the argument for deliberate design if all the specified patterns are indeed present in a real genealogical text.
Demonstration of Complexity
To illustrate the complexity, let's consider a hypothetical scenario:
Fixed Names and Counts:
- Assume we have a genealogy with 20 names.
- The names and their occurrences are fixed.
Checking for Patterns:
- Calculate the total number of letters in the names.
- Verify if the total is a multiple of 7.
- Check if the number of names starting with a vowel/consonant is a multiple of 7.
- Verify the gematrical values of names and their sums.
Probability Analysis:
- Given the fixed nature of the data, the probability of each pattern aligning perfectly with multiples of 7 would be calculated.
- This would involve combinatorial and probabilistic methods to determine the likelihood of such alignment by chance.
In summary, the constraints of real genealogical data make it highly improbable for the patterns you've described to occur naturally. This implies that achieving such patterns would be an extraordinary feat, likely indicating deliberate design rather than random chance.
If you have any specific genealogical data or examples you'd like to analyze, feel free to share, and we can delve deeper into the probabilities and complexities involved.
Me: So if it is deliberate design, but not something an average person could accomplish, how was it accomplished? The Apostle Paul said that all of scripture is "God Breathed." I think the inspiration of the Holy Spirit explains how this was accomplished. ChatgGPT 4 has access to resources Matthew never had. As hard as it would be for ChatGPT 4 to do, especially with fixed data, I imagine it would have been impossible for Matthew without that extra element of the Holy Spirit guiding him. It also points to the divine orchestration of the Messianic line over the centuries. These patterns continue, though, and it is not Matthew only where we find odd patterns. For me, these impossible patterns are further proof that we are dealing with a book of supernatural origin and design.
God's intellect is unsurpassed. He is greatly to be praised!
Please see: https://www.khouse.org/personal_update/articles/1995/beloved-numerologist
and the below video:



